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Posted by 2girlsmama (Member # 12024) on February 26, 2008 05:12 PM:
Hi!
I’m newer to the board.I wanted to know what brought you to Dr. Berger and brought you on this journey?
The reason why I’m asking is I’m so confused what to do. I want to have the TR for PTLS symptoms but I want another baby too. My lovely DH started me on this journey when he said he often wishes we could of tried again for a boy. Hense my screen name 2girlsmama. Then after I find this wonderful site, and we find out that I’m not crazy and the feelings and symptoms I have are most likely due to PTLS, he decides that our family is complete and doesn’t think we should do it to have DC but for my health, and since concluding I would have to do some form of birth control so that I was not pregnant all the time. So he has back down from wanting me to have the TR because he feels we are complete. He also thinks since I would have to be on the BC anyways why have the surgery!
I also just found out my best friend who has been nothing but supportive thru this process is pregnant, and it’s funny because her and her DH thought their family was complete!!
I just wanted to see if others were like me struggling to make the decision to either have it or to not. I know it can only be up to me and my DH.Has anyone else’s DH felt like they wanted the TR and then changed their mind? Also I take BC pills due to the heavy bleeding which I’ve been on now for a year, and I was going to try to go off them this month, I skip the normal day I start and immediately felt like crude, bloated.So I took the pills and this whole week I have felt like a bump on a log, nothing interests me, I’m short with my DDs and just want to crawl in hole. I don’t know if it is depression or just disappointment in possibly not getting the TR.
Any opinions or stories would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you
Sherry

Posted by Blessings (Member # 9736) on February 26, 2008 05:35 PM:
Sherry,
My DH and I have 5 children together and I had the TR surgery due to the PTLS (BEST THING I EVER DID). We did not want anymore children since we have 5 already. Since my surgery I have not taken any precautions not to get pregnant.. we decided if it was God’s will for us to have another baby that he will bless in this area , if not then that is okay too.
I feel like my old self before TL and for that it was well worth anything even if I never do have another baby.
I will be turning 40 soon and will take precautions not to get pregnant if I do not get that BFP very soon.
You could always have the surgery and if you later decide to TTC then you will have that option plus, you could help eleviate your PTLS symptoms.
Best of wishes, christie

Posted by sprocket (Member # 10860) on February 26, 2008 05:56 PM:
hi sherry,
i had my TL when i was 18 yrs old. i had already had 2 children and was in a very bad marriage, so i thought it best. well from then on until TR my periods were awful. always painful, 7 – 10 days long and very,very heavy. i had started looking into TR around the year 2000, b/c of my periods ( my doctor never would put me on the pill, said it was a waste b/c of TL) my husband at the time wouldn’t hear of it. he said the period thing was a lie and i was trying to trap him with child support if we split up. needless to say i realized b/c of that and other things we didn’t need to be together any longer. i suffered for 5 more years with the terrible pains . in 2005 i meet my soul mate. we discussed more children right off the bat and i explained about the TL and about the TR. he was all for it,after we got married. so we got married 3/7/07 and 5/2/07 we had the TR. he has 7yr old triplets from his 1st marriage and i have 2 teenagers from my 1st marriage. so in a sense we are complete also. we mainly did the TR b/c of my problem, but have since decided to try for more babies. to me if you are already on BC what would it hurt to have the surgery and then stay on them and later if you and DH decide to have more children you can. TR is most definately worth getting rid of PTLS. my periods are now only 3-5 days, alot less painful and no where near as heavy. good luck and best wishes.
danyelle

Posted by in-Gods-hands (Member # 11795) on February 27, 2008 08:45 AM:
Hi Sherry I had my TL in October of 03. I was in a marriage were things were not good and did not want to add any more children to the mix. I have moved on and God has blessed me with a great man. Funny thing is he is younger than me too. He does not have any children of his own but has took my 2 in as his own. He does all the daddy stuff even the sick stuff. I am getting the TR to make me feel better from the PTLS and if God choices to bless us with a baby we would love it. I am set to get my TR in March on the 24th.I remember that before my TL I loved getting out and doing things I loved life. After the TL I want to just stay home never get out a lot even though I love the great outdoors. I want to be myself again so I can be a better mom. I understand where you are coming from. If you want to you are welcome to come to the Waiting Room and talk with all the lady’s in waiting. I wish you all the best in what you decided to do. Miranda

Posted by 2girlsmama (Member # 12024) on February 27, 2008 02:45 PM:
Ladies
Thank you for your tell me your stories.I want relief from these problems. I’m scared I will be the only one that doesn’t benefit from this surgery. It’s nice to hear when others have the same symptoms as me and having doctors telling them it all in their heads. Is the waiting room for posters already scheduled or for anyone considering the TR?
Sherry

Posted by hopefulin2008 (Member # 11297) on February 27, 2008 03:35 PM:
Hey ladies I hope its alright if I jump in! I have not had my TR yet but I am schudeled for Aug 4 so that will put me at 2 years and 8 months and some odd days between TL and TR. I am having my TR so that my DH and I can have another baby but not only that I would love some relief from the PTLS sysptoms that I have too. Hope you ladies are having a blessed day in the Lord! Jennifer in NC

Posted by in-Gods-hands (Member # 11795) on February 27, 2008 03:46 PM:
The Waiting Room is for all lady’s waiting in some way. You are more than welcome even if you have not set your date yet. My name is Miranda and I am keeping the list going right now. I started caring for the list before I set my date. I was weired to put my own name on the list. I wish you all the best.

Posted by 2girlsmama (Member # 12024) on February 27, 2008 10:23 PM:
Thank you Miranda. I have read the posts in the Waiting Room. I’ll have to go over and post. Thanks

Posted by beebeekinsers (Member # 12115) on February 29, 2008 10:39 AM:
Hello Ladies,
My journey begins almost ten years ago. I was 26, having my 4th child, and near the end of my marriage. I now have a wonderful DH, who married me 8 years ago, knowing that I could not have more children. We spoke of reversal early in our marriage, but were not fortunate enough at that time to find Dr. Berger. Suddenly, we began to talk about it again, after I found this web site, and we are both very excited bout the possibility. I have not scheduled the surgery yet, since we need to save the money up, and I also need to lose some weight. I’m 36 now, and feel confident that there is time for me. My kids are thrilled that we’re planning this.

Posted by Lisa D. (Member # 11010) on February 29, 2008 12:13 PM:
Hi Sherry!

I didn’t have PTLS, so I can’t speak to that, but I can speak to the fear. I, too, was more than a little anxious about ttc again. So many questions and I would waffle back and forth between, yes I want another baby, well maybe that would be too much to add another child?-Always struggling to leave it in God’s hands. Anyway, we went through with the surgery and I was soooo nervous because I assumed we would be just as fertile as we were before. I swear He would just breath on me and I would get preggers!!! LOL Well, here I am almost a year post TR (5/1/07) and not one BFP. Oh how I wish I could have the ‘problem’ of being too fertile!! So my point of all this is- I had nothing to worry about. We don’t have to use protection, because it isn’t easy for us to conceive anymore. We have to work at it and that seems to be the case for alot of gals here. Though, everyone is not the same and the type of your TL makes a difference. Just thought I’d share our experience. GL
Lisa

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Posted by Abby C
I honestly can say I was one that did not worry. I took a HPT once AF didn’t show up. It was a very faint line (barely visible). Took another the next day with FMU and the same result. I called the doctor and went to have BW. My HCG was 72 then the second draw it was 225. I never had another draw and went in for US at 6 weeks and everything was right where it was supposed to be.

As long as your numbers are doubling it doesn’t matter where it starts out at. If you read the back of the HPT box it will tell you also that you are more likely to get a – result when you are actually pregnant than you are to get a + result when you aren’t. Relax and keep breathing!!!

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Posted by cdb
Congrats to you! I couldn’t be happier if it were me! I mean that. I think going through this tubal reversal journey together makes this so much more special. We had our surgeries the same day and have grown closer and closer since then. Like I told you last night, just be excited!! I know it is hard but this is great news! I love you girl!!

diane

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Posted by Jo Ann01
Congrats! I hope that everything works out great for you – however…. You are right, if you really are 24 DPO than the number is low. I wonder if you didn’t ovulate later that you thought? You know a OPK will react as a +++ if it detects hcg in your urine. It happened to me.

AF was a day late and I tested and got a BFN. AF arrived the next day. But my bb’s stayed swollen and AF was very short and light. At around CD 9 I felt right sided and rectal pain. It went away after one day. Then it came back very lightly. I used an OPK on what I thought was CD14 on the new cycle and it was +++. Then 2 days later I started bleeding again this odd purplish blood.

I went in for a blood draw and my level was 120. They did an u/s and found my right tube was swollen huge. They admitted me to the hospital and checked my level the next morning – it had dropped to 84. They sent me home and I continued to bleed and watch my numbers down to zero.

The right sided pain continued and they finally removed my tube 6 weeks later. It was sealed on both ends and full of old blood.

(9 months later I got pregnant again with my one tube left and my son is 13 weeks old)

I am not trying to scare you or discourage you, but the reality is that you are right to be cautious. I hope that you ovulated later than you thought and that your numbers will rise and everything will be fine. But I have had 2 TR babies and 2 m/c since my TR, so I know firsthand that it doesn’t always work out.

Please be aware of symptoms of an ectopic pregnancy and go to the doc ASAP if you have any.

I really hope this is your keeper!

Jo Ann

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Posted by HeWants2BeADaddy

Diane is so right… we have been on this journey together for months before out TR and everyday since. Your BFP is our BFP… I do have to say I am not as good a person as Diane lol, when I heard about your BFP I got so anxious to finally see one myself, but yes I am thrilled for you and DH. You both mean the world to us. The best news thus far is that you can get pregnant… and it gives us hope! Here’s to the 8-3-09 TR sisters and a happy and healthy nine months for you Beverly.
Love,
Neva

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Posted by HeWants2BeADaddy
I am waiting by the phone for your call Beverly, and just want you to know that I love you and Tony! We are praying for you sticky bean

Love, Sam & Neva

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Posted by bpmommyof5
Well got my second hcg draw back this afternoon. Wasn’t good they went from 40 to 52 in 48 hrs. The dr is thinking ectopic. But I will go again friday for a 3rd draw to see if the hcg numbers will double.
I’m really sad but trying to stay hopeful! I have been praying for a baby for xmas for months! I really thought my prayers were answered and I was getting my baby! I guess god must have other plans for me!

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Posted by Impatient (Member # 5526) on November 27, 2007 03:00 PM:
I have been looking at this board and other TR sites for a long time and wonder why their seem to be so many difrent stories on the best way to do the surgery, dye tests, no dye tests, 3 layers or 2. Honestly, it seems that some people are just trying to throw out stuff to run people off or to be misleading. How should me and my dh know what is right?
Carrie
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Posted by CarlaJo (Member # 10380) on November 27, 2007 03:04 PM:
By the statistics of pregnancy and the recovery time. Dr. Berger and his staff are awesome! I did my research also, and he had the best stats for my age and type of ligation.
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Posted by Julia Smith, RN (Member # 10) on November 27, 2007 03:07 PM:
Hi, Carrie. I was asked this same question just a few days ago and do have e-mail requests with this same question fairly frequently. I usually respond that the “three layers are better than two” theory is just the opinion of one doctor on the internet!
Dr. Berger sews the muscular and outer serosal layers together but not the inner endothelial layer as this may increase the risk of scar formation within the tubal lumen. In his opinion, this is the best approach. The suggestion I always make is to read through the testimonials from our patients. All of those women had surgery performed by Dr. Berger using the microsurgical techniques he pioneered — with pregnancy rates near 80% in our latest follow-up survey. This is a clear indication that his techniques are successful and result in pregnancies!
On the Internet, claims about tubal reversal pregnancy rates are often made without supporting information or documentation – such as a description of the patient population, study method, and follow-up interval. Most Internet sites about tubal reversal do not provide any factual data at all. Any doctor may say that his patients have a particular success rate, but supporting the claim with actual data involves considerable effort. Performing a follow-up study such as the one Dr. Berger compiles requires keeping an accurate record of patients and their findings, as well as maintaining ongoing patient contact to determine the outcomes of treatment. Without this detailed type of information, the accuracy of any claim of success rates should be questioned.
I hope this is helpful!
Julia Smith, RN
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Posted by Sarah Meacham, RN (Member # 9766) on November 27, 2007 03:16 PM:
Hi Carrie,
We keep very detailed data and statistics on each of our patients (age, tube length, medical history, tube of tubal ligation, pregnancy history, etc.). This is obtained by daily contact with our patients to ensure we have accurate information regarding their surgery and their outcome. To the best of my knowledge, Dr. Berger is the only doctor with published data regarding outcomes following reversal surgery.
Please contact me (SarahM@tubal-reversal.net) with any other questions you may have and we look forward to having you as a future patient!
Sarah
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Posted by Jennifer Okun, R.N. (Member # 1806) on November 27, 2007 03:17 PM:
Hi Carrie,
What Julia answered is exactly right! Dr. Berger has been performing the reversal surgery for over 30 years, has performed over 6,000 reversals and has the most tubal reversal babies born world-wide. So, obviously Dr. Berger’s technique is the best and he is doing it the best way possible.
I have worked for Dr. Berger for nearly 10 years and I can assure you – he is an amazing surgeon!
You will have the best outcome possible if you decide to undergo reversal surgery at our facility with Dr. Berger.
You may email me anytime with questions: Jennifer O@tubal-reversal.net
Best wishes!
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Posted by Jennifer Okun, R.N. (Member # 1806) on November 27, 2007 03:20 PM:
I should also add that Dr. Berger is the only physician in the country with a practice that is specifically limited to tubal reversal surgery. That is the only procedure we perform here with Dr. Berger performing four reversals each day, five days a week. We have a high staff/patient ratio with one or two nurses devoted specifically to your care while you are here. All of our nurses have advanced certification in cardiac life support (ACLS) and our anesthesiologists are MD’s with board certification in anesthesia. The anesthesiologists are employees here and not anesthesia staff from another hospital or anesthesia service. So everyone here has expertise in caring for and performing reversal surgery. While you are here, you will only be with other women and couples who are here specifically for the same purpose.
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Posted by Rhonda Brown, RN (Member # 9485) on November 27, 2007 03:36 PM:
Dear Carrie,What a good question. We get asked this question quite a bit. The best tool that any patient can have is information. I do not know of any other physician that puts out the information that Dr. Berger provides. We encourage patients to check his credentials and to ask as many questions as they need to. We provide 24/7 coverage seven days a week not only to our patients that have had surgery, but to patients that are thinking of having tubal reversal surgery.
As you browse the message board and read all the posts you will see that experience is a factor with tubal reversal surgery We have had many patients come to Dr. Berger after they had been told that tubal reversal could not be done in their case and then Dr. Berger was able to successfully repair the tubes as he is able to do in 98% of the cases.
I do not think that you will find a more caring physician who is truely devoted to the procedure that he performs as well as patient care. We as staff members feel very fortunate to be a part of this experience and would love to meet you in the near future. Please contact us if you have any questions.
Rhonda

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Posted by Flutist29 (Member # 12785) on October 18, 2008 10:12 AM :
This seems strange to write about, but I can’t help it! I had my TL on 1/10/05 and have had horrible, horrible periods ever since then. So many things changed in my life, I can’t believe it. Anyways…I had TR surgery on 10/8 and am now going through my first period since the TR. It is amazing how much better I feel already. My DH said to me this morning, “WOW, your skin looks so much better.” I have had basically no cramping and my right hip isn’t killing me like it used to. My bleeding is actually at a normal flow! The only thing I could complain about if I wanted to was that I had a headache Thursday and Friday. That’s it! I still can’t believe! I should have had this surgery 3 years ago! I would have saved myself a bunch of pain and sorrow.

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Posted by 2girlsmama (Member # 12024) on February 05, 2008 04:54 PM:

Hello everyone
My name is Sherry, I have two DDs 4 and 2. The other day my DH said to me over lunch, sometimes I wish we could still have kids.I had been having the thought for awhile, and due to my TL in 2006 could not without reversing. So I go to the internet and found this website. A total godsend!
Then I saw about post tubal ligation syndrome. I was like that is me. My gyn put me on BCP, and I didn’t think why? I chalked it up to age and hormones, I’m only 31.My husband and I are talking about do the surgery ASAP. I found out I had the Parkland TL, has anyone had this type, and gotten pregnant, and has the PTLS stopped? TIA
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Posted by HopesAndDreams (Member # 11754) on February 05, 2008 07:05 PM:

Hi Sherry,
Welcome to the board! You will find so much information here. I’ve hanging around here for almost 5 years, but recently started posting. I’m 33 and I suffer PTLS so bad and have regretted my TL even on the OR table having it done. I just scheduled my surgery for April 11th! I’ve been saving for the past 3 years and finally able to schedule. Anyway, I didn’t have the Parkland TL as you did, but I’m sure someone will chime in and help you with information. Again, welcome to the board and read up as much info as you can here. LOL
Dawn
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Posted by Rhonda Brown, RN (Member # 9485) on February 05, 2008 07:18 PM:

Dear Sherry,
Welcome to the board. We have had many patients that have come for surgery for PTLS and most women report an improvement following the surgery. Not only are they feeling better but they also have a chance for another baby if they desire. Dr. Berger has performed the reversal procedure on many women that had a Parkland tubal ligation. Please feel free to email me if you have any questions or if I can assist you with anything. I look forward to hearing from you and hopefully meeting you soon. By the way, we do have openings at the end of February.
Rhonda RhondaB@tubal-reversal.net
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Posted by 2girlsmama (Member # 12024) on February 05, 2008 10:54 PM:

Thanks for the welcome.
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Posted by momto10 (Member # 11808) on February 05, 2008 11:30 PM:

I had my surgery less than 1 month ago and I am already 80 to 90 % better…

Gwen
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Posted by Matt, ST (Member # 7398) on February 06, 2008 07:59 AM:

Hi Sherry here is a link you should check out that can give you more information about the Parkland procedure. I hope this is helpful for you.
Matt Murphy, ST
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Posted by in-Gods-hands (Member # 11795) on February 06, 2008 08:10 AM:

Sherry welcome to the boards. It is nice to meet you. If you want to you can come over to the waiting room and talk to everyone waiting to get their TR and when you set your big date I will proudly post your name on the list if you would like me to. I wish you all the best. I have talked to many lady’s that have improved on the PTLS after the TR. They tell me it is a new day, they are themselves again. I am seeking on in March if Gods works it out and I am getting very excited. Prayers coming your way. Miranda
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Posted by Simonsen6 (Member # 10172) on February 06, 2008 08:14 AM:

Sherry – here is the websites link for your TL you had done and the success rate with it-

http://www.tubal-reversal.net/tubal_ligation_resection.htm

I had PTLS SO bad- I too was put on BC pills- didn’t help! They did a D&C because of all the bleeding every week- didn’t help. They did a lap and when in to see what was wrong- NOTHING the next step they wanted to do was a hystorectomy (sp?) I’m 34- I had my TL in 2000 and have four kids. I didn’t know what was wrong with my body but I knew there was something- every DR just told me it was all in my head and there was nothing wrong. I was causing my body to do these things…. YEA Right!!! After 4 years of hopelessness I found Dr. Bergers website.. There was once again hope for me…
Took a year almost two to get the money – last March 9th, 2007 I had my TR and it was the BEST thnig I have ever done!!! The staff there at chapel hill were AWESOME!!! I wish all dr.’s and staff ran their bussinesses that way! They were friendly and caring and made me feel important!
Dr. Berger was amazing!!! HE talked to me and listened– he didn’t think these symptoms were crazy or in my head- He said he has seen several women with the same thing… The whole experience at chapel hill was wonderful!!
I came out with 5.5 on my rigt and 5.0 on left for my tube lengths. The first cycle after my TR was great!!! Then each month I started feeling my body getting back to normal!! Almost all of my PTLS symptoms were gone and I had my sex drive back and my moods were SO much better!!
In Aug-2007 I went in for my HSG to see if my tubes were open because I still hadn’t gotten a BFP– I followed Dr. bergers instructions to a T — I was driving my Dr. here crazy because I kept saying Dr. Berger says this and Dr. Berger say that (lol) They were both open and the dye flowed prefectly… IN Jan 2008- I got my first BFP (note- I was one of the later ones to get a BFP then the rest of the March 07 girls) I am now due 09-15-08 and thrilled to death!!!
Finding Dr. Berger and going to chapel hill was the best choice ever!!! I even think if I never got a BFP I would have been happy with the results of the PTLS being gone and Dr, Berger believing there was such a thing…

Good Luck on your journey- Follow your heart and don’t wait!!!

Lots of Love,
Becki
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Posted by mama12 (Member # 11260) on February 06, 2008 08:43 AM:

2 girls mama I’ve had two preganancies, 1 was a MC, which happens. One was an EP I suspect I’ve had tube width problems on that side, after surgery it was way too skinny. My oldest DD I think had a hang up in that tube, I had repeated Negative preg tests with her and lots of pain on that side, I think just the way my body was made, it’s been skinny since birth on that side. So no big deal, they took it out I’m fine. I suspect even without any surgeries I may have had troubles with that tube. My left side is perfect so we are trying again. We are getting excited!!
As far as PTLS my periods now instead of being 9-14 days long, they are now 5 days long.
The exhaustion and pain all month are GONE!!
I’ve got normal PMS nothing unbearable.
For PTLS it works. I can obviously get pregnant and we will be trying again soon.

Even with the MC and EP I know I’ve made the right choice getting TR. It’s really changed my life I feel alot better now.
Even down to being warmer I used to be cold all of the time, I’m warmer now… It improves symtoms you would’nt think were, or notice until they are gone. Kind of amazing really.
They’ve tried for years to put me on BC I’ve even had hysterectomy offered due to the pain…
I’ve held out, NO pills nothing. I’m glad I did, TR was the answer. It works. I don’t know how or why, someday technology will tell us why i’m sure.
There is risk involved but even after everything we’ve had happen I have to say I’m 100% still completely happy with my choice!!! I wouldn’t change a thing.
PTLS is NOT in your head, we can say it to you but I guarantee you’ll see after you get surgery. The bleeding I was having was completely out of control it was like hemmoragging every month and now it’s at a good normal AF. Like I was before TL.
You’ll probably still have some PMS that is normal you are supposed to it means your ovaries are working! But near bleeding to death every month the horrible pain, is just intolerable, Becki I know how it was for you it was the same for me over the top and dysfunctional to say the least.
Thank GOD for Dr. Berger. He is the best!! He changed my life for the better.
2 girls mama at 31??? Seriously… that’s the thing you have to question, I know I did that’s how I found Dr. Berger. I’m 35. There’s just a point where it doesn’t make sense anymore. The logic isn’t there. It could happen, but not in the numbers it is, there is obviously a link between TL and PTLS.
You’ve come to the right place.

I also am with Becki, even if we don’t have a baby, the PTLS relief is so incredible that I honestly don’t care, I know it’s horrible to say with everyone TTC, but it is true.
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Posted by 2girlsmama (Member # 12024) on February 06, 2008 10:36 AM:

Thank you all so much. It is so nice to know I’m not alone.I thought I was going crazy.I feel like I’m mean for no reason at all.I just want to cry sometimes, it is like it comes out of nowhere.I thank God for my DH speaking up, were on the fence about another child, but when I saw the posts about the PTLS I felt like a big weight had been lifted off me.Some of my concerns are what are the risks? As my DH says I don’t want to lose you.It makes me so mad that the doctors who do these TLs are allowed to not tell us the risks.Thank God for Dr.Berger and his staff.
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Posted by Simonsen6 (Member # 10172) on February 06, 2008 11:04 AM:

2girlsmama
With any surgery there is risk involved- BUT I can tell you this- I have had 6 laps, a TL, TR and my apendix taken out–
This was by far the easiest surgery I have ever had.. They are that good there!!!
My TL was horrible and hurt for several days–
With my Tr I remember getting on the bed and Dr. Berger coming in and said HI said something to the nurses and the next time I knew they were waking me up– I was SO tired but the asked me how the pain was and I really didn’t have any I just wanted to sleep. Dr Berger came in and told me how the surgery went – and my lenghts, I drank a juice box– IT WAS SO YUMMY!!! Went back to the hotel and slept most the day – I really didn’t feel any pain- I did take my med on time and the next day the nurse came in and checked me– I then drove 7 hours to get home and once I was home I didn’t need to take any more meds..
I felt very relaxed and comforted at chapel hill, I knew I was where I was supposed to be and all would be well!!!
I just wish I would find a dr. and staff like Dr. Berger and his staff- They really spoiled me! Now I have high expectations as the service I should get (lol)

My DH was not sure too- he thought it was all a scam and was pretty worried I would have something go wrong or get an infection- you never know about Dr’s these days– But once I had my consult and we met the staff and the care, then Meeting Dr. Berger my DH was impressed just as much as I was and he told me he had a good feeling about this!!!

You know after I go PG and the blood draws and all that protocal – MY DH still says do what ever Dr. Berger suggests because that is what is best!!!!

MY first numbers were 10,333 and the dr. office would not do an ultra sound because they said it was still to early and they wouldn’t see anything – dr. Berger says you can at 1500-2500 so we talked about it and my DH said what would Dr. Berger suggest you do– I said go to the ER
And off we went– They did teh ultra sound an sure enough you could see the sac and yoke…

I’m tell you – This is the best place you could ever ask for- Dr. Berger is hands down the best DR in the world. I know you and your DH will love him too!!!!

Lots of Love!
Becki
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Posted by 2girlsmama (Member # 12024) on February 26, 2008 05:12 PM:
Hi!
I’m newer to the board.I wanted to know what brought you to Dr. Berger and brought you on this journey?
The reason why I’m asking is I’m so confused what to do. I want to have the TR for PTLS symptoms but I want another baby too. My lovely DH started me on this journey when he said he often wishes we could of tried again for a boy. Hense my screen name 2girlsmama. Then after I find this wonderful site, and we find out that I’m not crazy and the feelings and symptoms I have are most likely due to PTLS, he decides that our family is complete and doesn’t think we should do it to have DC but for my health, and since concluding I would have to do some form of birth control so that I was not pregnant all the time. So he has back down from wanting me to have the TR because he feels we are complete. He also thinks since I would have to be on the BC anyways why have the surgery!
I also just found out my best friend who has been nothing but supportive thru this process is pregnant, and it’s funny because her and her DH thought their family was complete!!
I just wanted to see if others were like me struggling to make the decision to either have it or to not. I know it can only be up to me and my DH.Has anyone else’s DH felt like they wanted the TR and then changed their mind? Also I take BC pills due to the heavy bleeding which I’ve been on now for a year, and I was going to try to go off them this month, I skip the normal day I start and immediately felt like crude, bloated.So I took the pills and this whole week I have felt like a bump on a log, nothing interests me, I’m short with my DDs and just want to crawl in hole. I don’t know if it is depression or just disappointment in possibly not getting the TR.
Any opinions or stories would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you
Sherry

Posted by Blessings (Member # 9736) on February 26, 2008 05:35 PM:
Sherry,
My DH and I have 5 children together and I had the TR surgery due to the PTLS (BEST THING I EVER DID). We did not want anymore children since we have 5 already. Since my surgery I have not taken any precautions not to get pregnant.. we decided if it was God’s will for us to have another baby that he will bless in this area , if not then that is okay too.
I feel like my old self before TL and for that it was well worth anything even if I never do have another baby.
I will be turning 40 soon and will take precautions not to get pregnant if I do not get that BFP very soon.
You could always have the surgery and if you later decide to TTC then you will have that option plus, you could help eleviate your PTLS symptoms.
Best of wishes, christie

Posted by sprocket (Member # 10860) on February 26, 2008 05:56 PM:
hi sherry,
i had my TL when i was 18 yrs old. i had already had 2 children and was in a very bad marriage, so i thought it best. well from then on until TR my periods were awful. always painful, 7 – 10 days long and very,very heavy. i had started looking into TR around the year 2000, b/c of my periods ( my doctor never would put me on the pill, said it was a waste b/c of TL) my husband at the time wouldn’t hear of it. he said the period thing was a lie and i was trying to trap him with child support if we split up. needless to say i realized b/c of that and other things we didn’t need to be together any longer. i suffered for 5 more years with the terrible pains . in 2005 i meet my soul mate. we discussed more children right off the bat and i explained about the TL and about the TR. he was all for it,after we got married. so we got married 3/7/07 and 5/2/07 we had the TR. he has 7yr old triplets from his 1st marriage and i have 2 teenagers from my 1st marriage. so in a sense we are complete also. we mainly did the TR b/c of my problem, but have since decided to try for more babies. to me if you are already on BC what would it hurt to have the surgery and then stay on them and later if you and DH decide to have more children you can. TR is most definately worth getting rid of PTLS. my periods are now only 3-5 days, alot less painful and no where near as heavy. good luck and best wishes.
danyelle

Posted by in-Gods-hands (Member # 11795) on February 27, 2008 08:45 AM:
Hi Sherry I had my TL in October of 03. I was in a marriage were things were not good and did not want to add any more children to the mix. I have moved on and God has blessed me with a great man. Funny thing is he is younger than me too. He does not have any children of his own but has took my 2 in as his own. He does all the daddy stuff even the sick stuff. I am getting the TR to make me feel better from the PTLS and if God choices to bless us with a baby we would love it. I am set to get my TR in March on the 24th.I remember that before my TL I loved getting out and doing things I loved life. After the TL I want to just stay home never get out a lot even though I love the great outdoors. I want to be myself again so I can be a better mom. I understand where you are coming from. If you want to you are welcome to come to the Waiting Room and talk with all the lady’s in waiting. I wish you all the best in what you decided to do. Miranda

Posted by 2girlsmama (Member # 12024) on February 27, 2008 02:45 PM:
Ladies
Thank you for your tell me your stories.I want relief from these problems. I’m scared I will be the only one that doesn’t benefit from this surgery. It’s nice to hear when others have the same symptoms as me and having doctors telling them it all in their heads. Is the waiting room for posters already scheduled or for anyone considering the TR?
Sherry

Posted by hopefulin2008 (Member # 11297) on February 27, 2008 03:35 PM:
Hey ladies I hope its alright if I jump in! I have not had my TR yet but I am schudeled for Aug 4 so that will put me at 2 years and 8 months and some odd days between TL and TR. I am having my TR so that my DH and I can have another baby but not only that I would love some relief from the PTLS sysptoms that I have too. Hope you ladies are having a blessed day in the Lord! Jennifer in NC

Posted by in-Gods-hands (Member # 11795) on February 27, 2008 03:46 PM:
The Waiting Room is for all lady’s waiting in some way. You are more than welcome even if you have not set your date yet. My name is Miranda and I am keeping the list going right now. I started caring for the list before I set my date. I was weired to put my own name on the list. I wish you all the best.

Posted by 2girlsmama (Member # 12024) on February 27, 2008 10:23 PM:
Thank you Miranda. I have read the posts in the Waiting Room. I’ll have to go over and post. Thanks

Posted by beebeekinsers (Member # 12115) on February 29, 2008 10:39 AM:
Hello Ladies,
My journey begins almost ten years ago. I was 26, having my 4th child, and near the end of my marriage. I now have a wonderful DH, who married me 8 years ago, knowing that I could not have more children. We spoke of reversal early in our marriage, but were not fortunate enough at that time to find Dr. Berger. Suddenly, we began to talk about it again, after I found this web site, and we are both very excited bout the possibility. I have not scheduled the surgery yet, since we need to save the money up, and I also need to lose some weight. I’m 36 now, and feel confident that there is time for me. My kids are thrilled that we’re planning this.

Posted by Lisa D. (Member # 11010) on February 29, 2008 12:13 PM:
Hi Sherry!

I didn’t have PTLS, so I can’t speak to that, but I can speak to the fear. I, too, was more than a little anxious about ttc again. So many questions and I would waffle back and forth between, yes I want another baby, well maybe that would be too much to add another child?-Always struggling to leave it in God’s hands. Anyway, we went through with the surgery and I was soooo nervous because I assumed we would be just as fertile as we were before. I swear He would just breath on me and I would get preggers!!! LOL Well, here I am almost a year post TR (5/1/07) and not one BFP. Oh how I wish I could have the ‘problem’ of being too fertile!! So my point of all this is- I had nothing to worry about. We don’t have to use protection, because it isn’t easy for us to conceive anymore. We have to work at it and that seems to be the case for alot of gals here. Though, everyone is not the same and the type of your TL makes a difference. Just thought I’d share our experience. GL
Lisa

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Posted by Flutist29 (Member # 12785) on October 18, 2008 10:12 AM :
This seems strange to write about, but I can’t help it! I had my TL on 1/10/05 and have had horrible, horrible periods ever since then. So many things changed in my life, I can’t believe it. Anyways…I had TR surgery on 10/8 and am now going through my first period since the TR. It is amazing how much better I feel already. My DH said to me this morning, “WOW, your skin looks so much better.” I have had basically no cramping and my right hip isn’t killing me like it used to. My bleeding is actually at a normal flow! The only thing I could complain about if I wanted to was that I had a headache Thursday and Friday. That’s it! I still can’t believe! I should have had this surgery 3 years ago! I would have saved myself a bunch of pain and sorrow.

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Posted by 2girlsmama (Member # 12024) on February 05, 2008 04:54 PM:

Hello everyone
My name is Sherry, I have two DDs 4 and 2. The other day my DH said to me over lunch, sometimes I wish we could still have kids.I had been having the thought for awhile, and due to my TL in 2006 could not without reversing. So I go to the internet and found this website. A total godsend!
Then I saw about post tubal ligation syndrome. I was like that is me. My gyn put me on BCP, and I didn’t think why? I chalked it up to age and hormones, I’m only 31.My husband and I are talking about do the surgery ASAP. I found out I had the Parkland TL, has anyone had this type, and gotten pregnant, and has the PTLS stopped? TIA
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Posted by HopesAndDreams (Member # 11754) on February 05, 2008 07:05 PM:

Hi Sherry,
Welcome to the board! You will find so much information here. I’ve hanging around here for almost 5 years, but recently started posting. I’m 33 and I suffer PTLS so bad and have regretted my TL even on the OR table having it done. I just scheduled my surgery for April 11th! I’ve been saving for the past 3 years and finally able to schedule. Anyway, I didn’t have the Parkland TL as you did, but I’m sure someone will chime in and help you with information. Again, welcome to the board and read up as much info as you can here. LOL
Dawn
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Posted by Rhonda Brown, RN (Member # 9485) on February 05, 2008 07:18 PM:

Dear Sherry,
Welcome to the board. We have had many patients that have come for surgery for PTLS and most women report an improvement following the surgery. Not only are they feeling better but they also have a chance for another baby if they desire. Dr. Berger has performed the reversal procedure on many women that had a Parkland tubal ligation. Please feel free to email me if you have any questions or if I can assist you with anything. I look forward to hearing from you and hopefully meeting you soon. By the way, we do have openings at the end of February.
Rhonda RhondaB@tubal-reversal.net
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Posted by 2girlsmama (Member # 12024) on February 05, 2008 10:54 PM:

Thanks for the welcome.
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Posted by momto10 (Member # 11808) on February 05, 2008 11:30 PM:

I had my surgery less than 1 month ago and I am already 80 to 90 % better…

Gwen
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Posted by Matt, ST (Member # 7398) on February 06, 2008 07:59 AM:

Hi Sherry here is a link you should check out that can give you more information about the Parkland procedure. I hope this is helpful for you.
Matt Murphy, ST
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Posted by in-Gods-hands (Member # 11795) on February 06, 2008 08:10 AM:

Sherry welcome to the boards. It is nice to meet you. If you want to you can come over to the waiting room and talk to everyone waiting to get their TR and when you set your big date I will proudly post your name on the list if you would like me to. I wish you all the best. I have talked to many lady’s that have improved on the PTLS after the TR. They tell me it is a new day, they are themselves again. I am seeking on in March if Gods works it out and I am getting very excited. Prayers coming your way. Miranda
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Posted by Simonsen6 (Member # 10172) on February 06, 2008 08:14 AM:

Sherry – here is the websites link for your TL you had done and the success rate with it-

http://www.tubal-reversal.net/tubal_ligation_resection.htm

I had PTLS SO bad- I too was put on BC pills- didn’t help! They did a D&C because of all the bleeding every week- didn’t help. They did a lap and when in to see what was wrong- NOTHING the next step they wanted to do was a hystorectomy (sp?) I’m 34- I had my TL in 2000 and have four kids. I didn’t know what was wrong with my body but I knew there was something- every DR just told me it was all in my head and there was nothing wrong. I was causing my body to do these things…. YEA Right!!! After 4 years of hopelessness I found Dr. Bergers website.. There was once again hope for me…
Took a year almost two to get the money – last March 9th, 2007 I had my TR and it was the BEST thnig I have ever done!!! The staff there at chapel hill were AWESOME!!! I wish all dr.’s and staff ran their bussinesses that way! They were friendly and caring and made me feel important!
Dr. Berger was amazing!!! HE talked to me and listened– he didn’t think these symptoms were crazy or in my head- He said he has seen several women with the same thing… The whole experience at chapel hill was wonderful!!
I came out with 5.5 on my rigt and 5.0 on left for my tube lengths. The first cycle after my TR was great!!! Then each month I started feeling my body getting back to normal!! Almost all of my PTLS symptoms were gone and I had my sex drive back and my moods were SO much better!!
In Aug-2007 I went in for my HSG to see if my tubes were open because I still hadn’t gotten a BFP– I followed Dr. bergers instructions to a T — I was driving my Dr. here crazy because I kept saying Dr. Berger says this and Dr. Berger say that (lol) They were both open and the dye flowed prefectly… IN Jan 2008- I got my first BFP (note- I was one of the later ones to get a BFP then the rest of the March 07 girls) I am now due 09-15-08 and thrilled to death!!!
Finding Dr. Berger and going to chapel hill was the best choice ever!!! I even think if I never got a BFP I would have been happy with the results of the PTLS being gone and Dr, Berger believing there was such a thing…

Good Luck on your journey- Follow your heart and don’t wait!!!

Lots of Love,
Becki
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Posted by mama12 (Member # 11260) on February 06, 2008 08:43 AM:

2 girls mama I’ve had two preganancies, 1 was a MC, which happens. One was an EP I suspect I’ve had tube width problems on that side, after surgery it was way too skinny. My oldest DD I think had a hang up in that tube, I had repeated Negative preg tests with her and lots of pain on that side, I think just the way my body was made, it’s been skinny since birth on that side. So no big deal, they took it out I’m fine. I suspect even without any surgeries I may have had troubles with that tube. My left side is perfect so we are trying again. We are getting excited!!
As far as PTLS my periods now instead of being 9-14 days long, they are now 5 days long.
The exhaustion and pain all month are GONE!!
I’ve got normal PMS nothing unbearable.
For PTLS it works. I can obviously get pregnant and we will be trying again soon.

Even with the MC and EP I know I’ve made the right choice getting TR. It’s really changed my life I feel alot better now.
Even down to being warmer I used to be cold all of the time, I’m warmer now… It improves symtoms you would’nt think were, or notice until they are gone. Kind of amazing really.
They’ve tried for years to put me on BC I’ve even had hysterectomy offered due to the pain…
I’ve held out, NO pills nothing. I’m glad I did, TR was the answer. It works. I don’t know how or why, someday technology will tell us why i’m sure.
There is risk involved but even after everything we’ve had happen I have to say I’m 100% still completely happy with my choice!!! I wouldn’t change a thing.
PTLS is NOT in your head, we can say it to you but I guarantee you’ll see after you get surgery. The bleeding I was having was completely out of control it was like hemmoragging every month and now it’s at a good normal AF. Like I was before TL.
You’ll probably still have some PMS that is normal you are supposed to it means your ovaries are working! But near bleeding to death every month the horrible pain, is just intolerable, Becki I know how it was for you it was the same for me over the top and dysfunctional to say the least.
Thank GOD for Dr. Berger. He is the best!! He changed my life for the better.
2 girls mama at 31??? Seriously… that’s the thing you have to question, I know I did that’s how I found Dr. Berger. I’m 35. There’s just a point where it doesn’t make sense anymore. The logic isn’t there. It could happen, but not in the numbers it is, there is obviously a link between TL and PTLS.
You’ve come to the right place.

I also am with Becki, even if we don’t have a baby, the PTLS relief is so incredible that I honestly don’t care, I know it’s horrible to say with everyone TTC, but it is true.
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Posted by 2girlsmama (Member # 12024) on February 06, 2008 10:36 AM:

Thank you all so much. It is so nice to know I’m not alone.I thought I was going crazy.I feel like I’m mean for no reason at all.I just want to cry sometimes, it is like it comes out of nowhere.I thank God for my DH speaking up, were on the fence about another child, but when I saw the posts about the PTLS I felt like a big weight had been lifted off me.Some of my concerns are what are the risks? As my DH says I don’t want to lose you.It makes me so mad that the doctors who do these TLs are allowed to not tell us the risks.Thank God for Dr.Berger and his staff.
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Posted by Simonsen6 (Member # 10172) on February 06, 2008 11:04 AM:

2girlsmama
With any surgery there is risk involved- BUT I can tell you this- I have had 6 laps, a TL, TR and my apendix taken out–
This was by far the easiest surgery I have ever had.. They are that good there!!!
My TL was horrible and hurt for several days–
With my Tr I remember getting on the bed and Dr. Berger coming in and said HI said something to the nurses and the next time I knew they were waking me up– I was SO tired but the asked me how the pain was and I really didn’t have any I just wanted to sleep. Dr Berger came in and told me how the surgery went – and my lenghts, I drank a juice box– IT WAS SO YUMMY!!! Went back to the hotel and slept most the day – I really didn’t feel any pain- I did take my med on time and the next day the nurse came in and checked me– I then drove 7 hours to get home and once I was home I didn’t need to take any more meds..
I felt very relaxed and comforted at chapel hill, I knew I was where I was supposed to be and all would be well!!!
I just wish I would find a dr. and staff like Dr. Berger and his staff- They really spoiled me! Now I have high expectations as the service I should get (lol)

My DH was not sure too- he thought it was all a scam and was pretty worried I would have something go wrong or get an infection- you never know about Dr’s these days– But once I had my consult and we met the staff and the care, then Meeting Dr. Berger my DH was impressed just as much as I was and he told me he had a good feeling about this!!!

You know after I go PG and the blood draws and all that protocal – MY DH still says do what ever Dr. Berger suggests because that is what is best!!!!

MY first numbers were 10,333 and the dr. office would not do an ultra sound because they said it was still to early and they wouldn’t see anything – dr. Berger says you can at 1500-2500 so we talked about it and my DH said what would Dr. Berger suggest you do– I said go to the ER
And off we went– They did teh ultra sound an sure enough you could see the sac and yoke…

I’m tell you – This is the best place you could ever ask for- Dr. Berger is hands down the best DR in the world. I know you and your DH will love him too!!!!

Lots of Love!
Becki
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Posted by Impatient (Member # 5526) on November 27, 2007 03:00 PM:
I have been looking at this board and other TR sites for a long time and wonder why their seem to be so many difrent stories on the best way to do the surgery, dye tests, no dye tests, 3 layers or 2. Honestly, it seems that some people are just trying to throw out stuff to run people off or to be misleading. How should me and my dh know what is right?
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Posted by CarlaJo (Member # 10380) on November 27, 2007 03:04 PM:
By the statistics of pregnancy and the recovery time. Dr. Berger and his staff are awesome! I did my research also, and he had the best stats for my age and type of ligation.
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Posted by Julia Smith, RN (Member # 10) on November 27, 2007 03:07 PM:
Hi, Carrie. I was asked this same question just a few days ago and do have e-mail requests with this same question fairly frequently. I usually respond that the “three layers are better than two” theory is just the opinion of one doctor on the internet!
Dr. Berger sews the muscular and outer serosal layers together but not the inner endothelial layer as this may increase the risk of scar formation within the tubal lumen. In his opinion, this is the best approach. The suggestion I always make is to read through the testimonials from our patients. All of those women had surgery performed by Dr. Berger using the microsurgical techniques he pioneered — with pregnancy rates near 80% in our latest follow-up survey. This is a clear indication that his techniques are successful and result in pregnancies!
On the Internet, claims about tubal reversal pregnancy rates are often made without supporting information or documentation – such as a description of the patient population, study method, and follow-up interval. Most Internet sites about tubal reversal do not provide any factual data at all. Any doctor may say that his patients have a particular success rate, but supporting the claim with actual data involves considerable effort. Performing a follow-up study such as the one Dr. Berger compiles requires keeping an accurate record of patients and their findings, as well as maintaining ongoing patient contact to determine the outcomes of treatment. Without this detailed type of information, the accuracy of any claim of success rates should be questioned.
I hope this is helpful!
Julia Smith, RN
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Posted by Sarah Meacham, RN (Member # 9766) on November 27, 2007 03:16 PM:
Hi Carrie,
We keep very detailed data and statistics on each of our patients (age, tube length, medical history, tube of tubal ligation, pregnancy history, etc.). This is obtained by daily contact with our patients to ensure we have accurate information regarding their surgery and their outcome. To the best of my knowledge, Dr. Berger is the only doctor with published data regarding outcomes following reversal surgery.
Please contact me (SarahM@tubal-reversal.net) with any other questions you may have and we look forward to having you as a future patient!
Sarah
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Posted by Jennifer Okun, R.N. (Member # 1806) on November 27, 2007 03:17 PM:
Hi Carrie,
What Julia answered is exactly right! Dr. Berger has been performing the reversal surgery for over 30 years, has performed over 6,000 reversals and has the most tubal reversal babies born world-wide. So, obviously Dr. Berger’s technique is the best and he is doing it the best way possible.
I have worked for Dr. Berger for nearly 10 years and I can assure you – he is an amazing surgeon!
You will have the best outcome possible if you decide to undergo reversal surgery at our facility with Dr. Berger.
You may email me anytime with questions: Jennifer O@tubal-reversal.net
Best wishes!
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Posted by Jennifer Okun, R.N. (Member # 1806) on November 27, 2007 03:20 PM:
I should also add that Dr. Berger is the only physician in the country with a practice that is specifically limited to tubal reversal surgery. That is the only procedure we perform here with Dr. Berger performing four reversals each day, five days a week. We have a high staff/patient ratio with one or two nurses devoted specifically to your care while you are here. All of our nurses have advanced certification in cardiac life support (ACLS) and our anesthesiologists are MD’s with board certification in anesthesia. The anesthesiologists are employees here and not anesthesia staff from another hospital or anesthesia service. So everyone here has expertise in caring for and performing reversal surgery. While you are here, you will only be with other women and couples who are here specifically for the same purpose.
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Posted by Rhonda Brown, RN (Member # 9485) on November 27, 2007 03:36 PM:
Dear Carrie,What a good question. We get asked this question quite a bit. The best tool that any patient can have is information. I do not know of any other physician that puts out the information that Dr. Berger provides. We encourage patients to check his credentials and to ask as many questions as they need to. We provide 24/7 coverage seven days a week not only to our patients that have had surgery, but to patients that are thinking of having tubal reversal surgery.
As you browse the message board and read all the posts you will see that experience is a factor with tubal reversal surgery We have had many patients come to Dr. Berger after they had been told that tubal reversal could not be done in their case and then Dr. Berger was able to successfully repair the tubes as he is able to do in 98% of the cases.
I do not think that you will find a more caring physician who is truely devoted to the procedure that he performs as well as patient care. We as staff members feel very fortunate to be a part of this experience and would love to meet you in the near future. Please contact us if you have any questions.
Rhonda

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This is topic Not sure how to take this BFP! in forum After Tubal Reversal at Tubal Reversal Message Board.

Posted by Abby C
I honestly can say I was one that did not worry. I took a HPT once AF didn’t show up. It was a very faint line (barely visible). Took another the next day with FMU and the same result. I called the doctor and went to have BW. My HCG was 72 then the second draw it was 225. I never had another draw and went in for US at 6 weeks and everything was right where it was supposed to be.

As long as your numbers are doubling it doesn’t matter where it starts out at. If you read the back of the HPT box it will tell you also that you are more likely to get a – result when you are actually pregnant than you are to get a + result when you aren’t. Relax and keep breathing!!!

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Posted by cdb
Congrats to you! I couldn’t be happier if it were me! I mean that. I think going through this tubal reversal journey together makes this so much more special. We had our surgeries the same day and have grown closer and closer since then. Like I told you last night, just be excited!! I know it is hard but this is great news! I love you girl!!

diane

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Posted by Jo Ann01
Congrats! I hope that everything works out great for you – however…. You are right, if you really are 24 DPO than the number is low. I wonder if you didn’t ovulate later that you thought? You know a OPK will react as a +++ if it detects hcg in your urine. It happened to me.

AF was a day late and I tested and got a BFN. AF arrived the next day. But my bb’s stayed swollen and AF was very short and light. At around CD 9 I felt right sided and rectal pain. It went away after one day. Then it came back very lightly. I used an OPK on what I thought was CD14 on the new cycle and it was +++. Then 2 days later I started bleeding again this odd purplish blood.

I went in for a blood draw and my level was 120. They did an u/s and found my right tube was swollen huge. They admitted me to the hospital and checked my level the next morning – it had dropped to 84. They sent me home and I continued to bleed and watch my numbers down to zero.

The right sided pain continued and they finally removed my tube 6 weeks later. It was sealed on both ends and full of old blood.

(9 months later I got pregnant again with my one tube left and my son is 13 weeks old)

I am not trying to scare you or discourage you, but the reality is that you are right to be cautious. I hope that you ovulated later than you thought and that your numbers will rise and everything will be fine. But I have had 2 TR babies and 2 m/c since my TR, so I know firsthand that it doesn’t always work out.

Please be aware of symptoms of an ectopic pregnancy and go to the doc ASAP if you have any.

I really hope this is your keeper!

Jo Ann

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Posted by HeWants2BeADaddy

Diane is so right… we have been on this journey together for months before out TR and everyday since. Your BFP is our BFP… I do have to say I am not as good a person as Diane lol, when I heard about your BFP I got so anxious to finally see one myself, but yes I am thrilled for you and DH. You both mean the world to us. The best news thus far is that you can get pregnant… and it gives us hope! Here’s to the 8-3-09 TR sisters and a happy and healthy nine months for you Beverly.
Love,
Neva

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Posted by HeWants2BeADaddy
I am waiting by the phone for your call Beverly, and just want you to know that I love you and Tony! We are praying for you sticky bean

Love, Sam & Neva

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Posted by bpmommyof5
Well got my second hcg draw back this afternoon. Wasn’t good they went from 40 to 52 in 48 hrs. The dr is thinking ectopic. But I will go again friday for a 3rd draw to see if the hcg numbers will double.
I’m really sad but trying to stay hopeful! I have been praying for a baby for xmas for months! I really thought my prayers were answered and I was getting my baby! I guess god must have other plans for me!

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